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How Down Fill Power and Weight Create Warmth

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Picture yourself huddled in your tent with the wind whipping outside the thin layer of nylon that separates you from the elements. If you choose the wrong gear for that situation, you’re in for an uncomfortable or even potentially dangerous night. 

Down fill is an essential part of the outdoor gear industry because it provides warmth with minimal weight. Learning how down fill power and weight create warmth enables you to better comprehend the functionality of things like down jackets, sleeping bags, hats, and even booties. 

So when you’re in that hairy, aforementioned situation, having gear that uses down could probably save your life or at least make for a much more comfortable experience.

Whether you’re climbing snowy peaks, camping in cold climates, or strolling through chilly city streets, down is still one of the warmest materials available. And it still provides an incredible warmth-to-weight ratio. Let’s break down what else you need to know about down power and fill weight and how to prepare for your next cold-weather adventure.

How Down Insulation Works

If you’ve ever seen ducks or geese swimming in nearly-frozen ponds in February, you’ve probably wondered how they manage to stay alive. The simple answer is: feathers. Down insulation is made out of the same feathered insulation that geese and ducks use to keep themselves warm when it counts the most. 

Humans generally use the soft underbelly of the feather, which is stripped of the tough feather particles before being placed in a containing material like nylon. The down then clusters together to trap air, creating pockets of warmth that you create from the heat of your own body. 

The way in which the down clusters and the quality of the air pockets it creates directly influences its down power or “loft”. Without getting into too much detail (we’ll do this later), higher loft means more air is trapped, leading to greater warmth and lighter, more compressible products.

In short, the less loft or down power, the less insulated or warm something is.

Outdoor gear is constantly changing, yet the first recorded use of down feathers as insulation was in the late 1800s. It was then when most accounts suggest the first “sleeping bag” was designed. This shift in efficiency forever changed the way that we travel while camping and backpacking. 

The less loft or down power, the less insulated or warm something is.

Types of Down Fill

If you’re new to the world of sleeping bags and jackets, learning how to tell the difference between all the different insulation types can be really overwhelming. Fortunately, there are just two types of down that are commonly found in sleeping bags and jackets today: goose and duck down

Duck Down

This insulator has a slightly lower loft, meaning it traps less heat, than goose down. It also weighs a little bit more (and by a little bit, we mean fractions of an ounce per gram). But duck down is also less expensive, which can make it a really good pick for the budget-conscious hiker who wants a reliable sleeping bag or jacket without the hefty price tag.

The reality is that most well-made down products are still extremely lightweight and efficient in the backcountry. If you went the budget-friendly option and chose duck down, you just might end up carrying an extra half-pound compared to a lighter option.

Goose Down

This type of down is generally considered a premium material (yes, that means a little more costly). Yet it comes with a higher loft than duck down – i.e. it traps more heat – and is ultra lightweight. 

Both duck and goose down lead the industry when it comes down to providing hikers and backpackers with lightweight gear that goes the extra mile to keep you warm. This is one reason why you’ll almost always find cold-weather athletes carrying some type of down sleeping bag and jacket. Keep in mind that some brands mix duck and goose down to provide a middle-of-the-road piece of gear at a mid-range price. 

What is Down Fill Power?

Remember how we briefly talked about loft in the last section? Loft, also referred to as down power, basically indicates how much heat the down will trap around your body. 

In layman’s terms, loft is like the “fluffiness” of down, and the fluffier it is, the better it can insulate. This means the higher the loft, the warmer the down, although the measurement is technically an indicator of how much room an ounce of down takes up in a cubic inch. 

Down Fill Ratings Explained

If higher down indicates how much heat down will trap around your body, then the higher the “fill power,” the warmer the down. 

Fill power ratings generally range from 400 to 900. Again, the higher the fill power, the higher the quality of the down. 

Current industry standards bracket fill power this way:

  • 400-500 Fill Power: This range of fill power is going to be moderately warm, and appropriate for summer and some shoulder-season adventures. It’s the most affordable option and is generally found in lifestyle or every day jackets. 
  • 600-700 Fill Power: This is a mid-weight fill power which means that it’s usually ideal for 3-season adventures and outdoor environments. The cost of this type of fill is mid-range, and the performance is reliable. 
  • 800-900 Fill Power: A premium category of down, 800-900 fill power is about as good as it gets. This type of fill can be found in highly technical equipment like alpine climbing and ultralight gear. As a premium category, it also generally comes with a higher price tag, but the performance usually makes it worth the cost. 

What Is Down Fill Power Temperature Rating?

While fill power describes a measurement that alludes to the efficiency of down material, it doesn’t necessarily help you to determine how warm a piece of gear is going to be. Instead, warmth is a function of fill power and fill weight (or the amount of down that’s used in a product). A higher fill power simply means that a jacket will keep you warmer than a lesser-quality down for less weight. 

Sleeping Bag Lab Ratings

One measurement that you can evaluate when choosing a sleeping bag is the EN or ISO rating. These ratings refer to lab testing measurements that were performed to measure the ability of a sleeping bag to retain warmth. As a result, many sleeping bags come with ratings that tell you the sleeping bag’s “survival” limits, as well as “comfort limits”. 

While these measurements are still widely available today, they’re only estimates, and they don’t take personal preference into account. Furthermore, a sleeping bag that doesn’t feature this rating may still perform well or even better than the EN or ISO standards. They simply haven’t undergone the same tests. 

What is Down Fill Weight?

Every backpacker and hiker loves down because it’s naturally insulative, it’s cozy, it’s lightweight, and it can easily be compressed, which makes it pack-friendly. But understanding down fill weight can help you to better understand how to leverage the material to support your outdoor goals.

Down fill weight is the total quantity of down used in a product, usually described in ounces or grams. An 8-ounce jacket of 800 fill power down is warmer than an 8-ounce jacket of 600 fill power down, for example.

Does Down Fill Weight Matter More Than Power?

Warmth is a function of fill power and fill weight...both are crucial in the calculation

Both fill power and fill weight are crucial in the calculation of warmth. Fill power determines how well the down traps heat and how much it can be compressed. Fill weight dictates how warm a sleeping bag or jacket will be. 

For example, most extreme-weather athletes, like mountaineers, carry the lightest gear with the highest down fill power (for compressibility and lightweight structure). This could look like a 900 fill power goose down sleeping bag with a large fill weight. 

Athletes who are looking for a mid-grade option might snag a 700 fill power sleeping bag with a mid-grade fill weight. And car campers might snag a sleeping bag with a 500 fill power and minimal fill weight. 

Finding a warm system that combines both fill weight and down power is the best way to ensure that you’re warm and comfortable on all of your adventures. 

Some Our Favorite Down Jackets and Sleeping Bags

Once you have an understanding of fill power, fill weight, and the way these components work together to create warmth, it’s a lot easier to look at adventure equipment and determine how warm an item might be. But then you still have to evaluate style, fit, and structure to set yourself up for success. A few of our favorite time-tested down jackets and sleeping bags include:

Exped Ultra -20 Degree Sleeping Bag

It’s easy to assume that a sleeping bag with a really warm design is going to be heavy. Yet Exped proves that this is not always the case. The -20 Degree Ultra Sleeping Bag weighs just 48 (3 pounds) ounces in a regular version, which is the same weight of some 10 or even 20-degree bags. 

The standard version of the bag comes with a 32.7-ounce fill weight structure and 850+ fill power European goose down, which is about as good as it gets. While Big Agnes makes a phenomenal 0-degree bag with a similar weight, its temperature is less efficient by 20 degrees, for comparison. 

Sea to Summit Spark 15-degree Sleeping Bag

Another option for slightly warmer conditions is the Sea to Summit Spark 15-degree Sleeping bag. This sleeping bag is designed for women (which really means that it’s a little bit more generous in warmth and a touch smaller in height than non-gendered bags). It weighs just over two pounds. It comes with 850+ fill power goose down and adheres to Nemo’s sustainable practices, making it a great ethical option.

Outdoor Research Helium Down Hoodie

Summertime adventures don’t require the same intense gear that arctic and alpine adventures typically require. But you still want your equipment to be durable, lightweight, and comfortable like the Outdoor Research Helium Down Hoodie. This jacket is extra light, weighing 15.4 ounces. It’s made with 800 fill power goose down that’s ethically sourced. And the external 30 denier ripstop nylon does a great job of battling rogue branches and rocks.  

Fjallraven Expedition Pack Down Hoodie

A nice mid-grade down jacket is the Fjallraven Expedition Pack Down Hoodie, which weighs less than a pound and is designed for “polar” hiking conditions. This jacket comes with 90% 700 fill power goose down and 10% feather to make a warm and comfortable adventure companion. But it is a little less packable than the Outdoor Research Helium Down Hoodie.

Arc’teryx Cerium Insulated Hoodie

On the high end of most athletes’ budgets is the Arc’teryx Cerium Insulated Hoodie, which retails at $400 but comes with 850 fill power European white goose down. This jacket is easily the lightest option on the list, weighing 10.2 ounces. It also uses mapping technology to pack extra heat in cold-sensitive areas. The result is a jacket that does more than most of its competitors.

Care of Your Down Gear

A high-quality sleeping bag will last most people at least a decade of vigorous use. Those who are moderately active can likely get even more use out of it, but an essential part of the longevity process is in the way you care for it.

Most sleeping bag manufacturers have their own guidelines when it comes to the washing and drying of their sleeping bags. Generally, they suggest using a down-specific detergent like Nickwax to avoid damaging the down. You can then hang dry or potentially dry your bag on low. Store your bag decompressed in a loose bag.

Tips and Tricks for Using Down Products

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Keeping your down fresh is one good way to ensure the longevity of your gear. Here are a few additional tips and tricks to keep you poised and ready for your next adventure:

  • Wash your down gear about once per year. This helps it to retain loft, which contributes to better efficiency.
  • When drying your sleeping bag in a dryer, toss a few tennis balls into the dryer to help break up wet clumps of down. 
  • When hiking in wetter climates, wear an outer, water-proof layer over your down. Down loses its insulating properties when wet and takes much longer to dry than synthetics.
  • Whenever possible, keep your down gear items uncompressed. Inevitably, backpacking and camping will involve some amount of compression. But when you get to your campsite, leave those items in your tent instead of stuffed in a bag. 
  • Pack a sleeping bag liner to protect your sleeping bag from oils and stains. It’s a lot easier to wash a liner than it is to wash a sleeping bag. These can be found in silk, cotton, and flannel options. Generally, silk is the most lightweight option, and it has natural antimicrobial properties to keep the funk at bay. 
 

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K2 Base Camp

Pakistan Strenuous 21 Days

Trip Leader

Pema is a woman of many talents. The things she has achieved by the age of 30, most people can’t even imagine doing in a lifetime. 

Born in Kathmandu, Nepal to Tibetan Parents, Pema moved to the USA at a young age. 

A keen interest in mountains, photography, and free diving launched a career of full-time world travel and big-time adventures. 

Pema is one of the most experienced members of our trip leader staff. She has summited multiple 8000-meter peaks and completed countless multi-day treks in the Himalayas and Karakoram. 

Throw on top of all of that a bright personality who brings out the best in people, and you have the recipe for an excellent trip leader. That’s Pema. 

General Manager for Pakistan Operations

“Our man in Pakistan” is one way to describe the legend and our dear friend, Nisar Hussein. 

Nisar grew up on the outskirts of Karakoram National Park in the Gilgit Baltistan region of Northern Pakistan. His village, Kanday, is literally at the foot of some of the world’s highest mountain ranges. 

He has a deep passion and love for the Pakistani mountains and truly believes in the potential for tourism in Pakistan to be a force for good in local communities. 

These days he helps run our Pakistani field operations from his dual bases in Islamabad and Skardu. 

Nisar possesses a work ethic beyond compare and is likely behind all of the little details that make our trips in Pakistan so special. 

Trip Leader

Hailing from the Toronto region of Eastern Canada, with a background as a former standout athlete (hockey of course) and a  love of mountain adventure, Clark is a welcomed addition to the Epic team.

In addition to being a keen photographer and adventurer, Clark brings his brilliant sense of humor, leadership skills, and positive attitude to everything he puts his mind to. 

When he is not leading trips, he is working on taking over the hard apple cider game in Canada as a skilled craft brewer. 

Trip Leader

Noemi grew up in the mountains of German-Speaking Switzerland where she naturally developed a deep love and respect for mountain environments.

She is a talented photographer, aspiring climber, and speaks at least 5 languages fluently including Arabic (and probably a few more that we don’t know about), which she taught herself in a matter of months by watching YouTube videos. 

Noemi has spent the last several years traveling, hiking, and photographing her way around many different countries in the Middle East, South and Central Asia, and Europe, and we could not be more stoked to welcome her to the Epic team! 

Adventure Guide

As our man on the ground in Mongolia, there is not much this legend can’t do. As a native the Bayan-Ölgii province of the Western Mongolia Altai, Syerik has been working as a guide and tourism entrepreneur…

for the past several years and is one of the rising stars in Mongolia adventure travel industry. 

He is currently building a beautiful Ger (Yurt) camp near his hometown where he will host Epic Mongolia team members on our trip as well as other travelers from around the world! 

He is the perfect guide for your trip to Mongolia. Serik did an amazing job giving us a well rounded experience in the Altai NP region and down in the Gobi…
The food was fantastic and Serik gave us many opportunities to learn about the Kazakh culture in that region including traditional meals. (I can’t recommend enjoying the milk tea enough!)

– Coastal

Head of canine operations

Choriza started off life as a care-free vagabond on the streets of Madeira Island without any place to call home. From the moment we met her, we knew this dog was just different, and it was pretty much love at first sight. 

She gave up the dog street life in favor of joining her new dad Chris to become a full-time member of the Epic family towards the end of 2022.

These days she can be found listening in on the fringes of important Epic business meetings while half-asleep on the couch. She is a keen hiker, lover of mud, rare steak, and might just be the sweetest little dog we have ever seen. 

Trip Leader

An experienced trek leader and
IFMGA aspirant ski guide, avid alpine climber, devoted adventure photographer.

Organized and guided trekking expeditions, climbs and ski tours in Tajikistan’s Pamirs, Patagonia, Peru, Morocco, Nepal, Kyrgyzstan, Georgian and Russian Caucasus and Kamchatka.

A full member and meets the organiser of the British Alpine Club. Visited over 40 countries, lived in the UK for four years. Certified first-aider.

We joined Andrew on a fantastic trip to the Fann Mountains in Tajikistan, pure nature and magnificent scenery! Andrey was super prepared and led us safely up and down numerous passes and through some rough and icy cold rivers. Thank you for a very memorable trip, your planning and prep was excellent!

– Monika Steinlechner

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Adventure Guide

Our man in Nepal, Sandip is what we like to call a “Swiss Army Knife”. There is not much Sandip can’t do when it comes to helping Epic to run our expeditions smoothly in Nepal.

His tireless work ethic, passion for all things trekking in the Himalayas, and smart decision-making mean that Sandip is a truly invaluable member of our team.

Sandip is passionate about showing visitors to his country an amazing time, and he goes above and beyond to make sure that happens. 

His company Himalayan Masters is Epic’s trusted partner in Nepal and one of the country’s top new tour agencies.

We really enjoyed the entire journey, and I would like to say that Sandip is truly professional. He guided us and he is a hardworking person, providing us with the best service and taking care of each one of us. Plus, he is super funny! The kind of professionnal you always want to find on your path for your explorations! 

– Alexandra Ruth

Fairy Meadows

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Our Favorite Experiences

#1 Sunrise from Reflection Lake

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#2 Hiking to Nanga Parbat Base Camp

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#3 Playing cricket with the locals

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Trips Where We Visit Fairy Meadows

Our flagship Pakistani adventure tour.  Road trip with some  hiking and cultural immersion.

A trekking-style tour that features some very remote locations, inlcuding a K2 viewpoint.

Trip Leader

João has born in the mountains of Madeira Islands in Portugal. Nature lover, writer, musician, guide, for him, a day without contact with outdoor vibes is a nightmare. 

With a degree in Cultural Studies in Portugal and a Master of Arts in Global Cultures and Creativity in the U.K.

João found out what really matters in life can be found on the trails, and in the contact with people from different backgrounds and cultures.

Guiding, crazy trekking missions, and sharing observations about the natural world, – these are some of João’s passions. 

After trekking to K2 Base Camp and exploring all over Northern Pakistan, he fell in love with the country and the local people. His experiences resulted in his desire to share these feelings with the world.

João is one of the most experienced guides at Epic and his skillset and positive mindset in the mountains is second to none

When not in Pakistan, João is  guiding and exploring in the Madeira Islands trails –  discovering some of the hidden treasures on his Portuguese Island.

João I can not thank you enough for the off the beaten paths and views you keep giving. Definitely one of the most challenging and amazing hikes we did 1200m meters all the way up to Fanal forest and circling back to the hidden village. Wow!

– Jeffery 

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Adventure Guide

Sohail is the newest addition to the Epic team and we are beyond stoked to have him on board. As a veteran of the Karakoram and a native of Karimabad in Hunza, there is not much Sohail can’t do in the mountains. 

Besides having the ability to speak more languages than we can count, Sohail has explored every corner of Gilgit Baltistan and logs more trekking miles 

in a year than most people will do in a lifetime. As of the summer of 2022, Sohail has summited Gasherbrum 1, Gasherbrum 2, and K2 – three of Pakistan’s five 8000-meter peaks. Sohail guides several trips including our annual bespoke expeditions but specializes in Hunza Valley tours.

Chris and Sohail, and the team at Epic are FANTASTIC! Highly recommend anyone to do a tour with ‘Epic’. They have the perfect balance of fun, excitement and wild adventures, tied in with being super professional and ensuring your safety/health in a foreign environment. Don’t waste a moment and book a tour with these guys as the value for money is UNREAL!

– Borgan

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Trip Leader

Pedro’s been traveling all around the globe since 2009. His keen interests in documentary photography, rural life, and local people from different ethnic groups have been the focus of many of his professional projects.

Since 2012, he has developed his passion for travel and awesome shared experiences into a full-time adventure photography tour leader position.

Pedro has found himself continuously going back to the Middle East, with his likely favorite destination being Iran. Pedro lead his 11th tour in Iran with Epic in spring 2020

When Pedro’s not traveling the world with Epic Expeditions, you’ll find him based in the western south of Portugal planning he’s next adventure missions, logistics and working out his photos in local exhibitions.

 I loved the combination of hiking, camping around breathtaking scenery mixed with the cultural aspects. The guide (Pedro) is knowledgeable and work very hard to make the trip as memorable as possible. All in all an epic adventure with some extremely epic individuals! Go for it, you won’t regret it!

– Coastal

Diane Bouvet

Adventure Admin / Marketing

After fleeing from the corporate fashion world in Paris towards the start of 2020, Diane has been working as a web developer and graphic designer remotely from various bases across the globe

She brings all of her incredible design and organizational power to Epic Expeditions and is responsible for many of the beautiful behind-the-scenes design elements. 

Diane has been to Iran and to Pakistan twice including all over Gilgit Baltistan and KPK.

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Head of Operations

A veteran of Pakistan travel, Ralph is an experienced guide, photographer and writer who specializes in documenting remote locations. 

Not one to simply go where everyone else does, he insists on exploring new and lesser-known areas.

Together with Epic Expeditions, he shows people parts of Pakistan that most other operators don’t even know about. He is particularly fond of the village of Barah, which he believes will become just as famous as Hunza one day.

Just got back from EBT’s Trekking Amongst Giants 15 day tour. The experience was first class. Ralph, our head guide, ensured that the entire trip ran smoothly and relatively on time (a bonus for anyone travelling in Pakistan). We had so many unforgettable days on the tour and the trekking was well-planned, safe but also a rewarding challenge. 

– Calvin


Traveling to a non-tourist destination can be a little intimidating but EBT takes all of the worry and trepidation away. From the pre-trip call to meeting the wonderful staff in person you can tell that you are dealing with a company that has a passion for what they do each and every day. Ralph, Zahid, and Khan were supportive, kind, and always willing to go the extra mile to make sure that everyone on the trip was getting what they wanted out of the experience.

– Katrina 

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Founder | Trip Leader | Director

Since he started exploring the world, Chris has been seeking out every shade of adventure in various parts of the globe and had visited more than 70 countries along the way. 

Over the last 10 years, Chris has logged more than 7000 trail miles across five continents and climbed multiple 6000 + 7000 meter peaks in South America, Pakistan, and Nepal.

A few years back, a distant dream and a deep passion for the mountains and the people of Pakistan led Chris to found Epic Expeditions at a time when foreign adventure tourism in Pakistan was almost nonexistent. Since then, Chris has guided more than 65 expeditions to various corners of the earth (and counting). 

Chris believes in using community and powerful adventure experiences to dismantle negative stereotypes regarding what mainstream media considers “dangerous” countries while facilitating unique and meaningful memories in the mountains for countless people from around the globe. 

For him, an ideal start to the day begins with a steaming cup of good coffee, the beam of a headlamp, alpine boots, and a camera in hand.

Although he is originally a native of Southern California, he now lives in Madeira Island, Portugal, when he is not leading expeditions in far-flung lands. 

Chris also works as a writer and photographer on his blog Off the Atlas – an adventure travel blog all about Pakistan.  

Read this interview our staff did with Chris to learn more about him!

Chris believes in Pakistan and its people, and he believes in the value of journeys shared with others and family cultivated on the road. Honesty and integrity are at the heart of what he does, and this really shines through in his work as a guide. He also makes great coffee – whether at 5am in an empty guesthouse or half way up a Himalayan peak.”

– Will De Villers

Pakistan is a magical country! Had 3 of the best weeks of my life thanks to Epic Backpacking Tours with owner, and one of our awesome guides, Chris. From detailed itinerary, preparation with an equipment list, and visa assistance. To amazing food, great porters, helpful guides, and great accommodations. Epic really hit home run after home run. […]

Their desire for adventure and amazing trip is just as high as yours. Bring a good pound of coffee for the trip. French press coffee every morning and no average tin coffee, plus you’ll be in your guides good books.

– Clark Tyler

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